INTERVIEW: Model Stranger
Model Stranger
The Photo Ladies Interview - by Emily May
It's pretty rare these days to find a band that has not only been together for a decade, but one who has their original line-up. Chicago-based alternative rock band Model Stranger is that rare band. Friends since high school, vocalist/guitarist Stephen Francis and bassist Kevin James played in prog rock band together, with time eventually leading them to meet drummer Vincent Joseph. Initially a hired gun for two shows, Vincent soon became a permanent part of the band and Model Stranger was officially born. Dubbed "rock n' roll classicists" and "an eclectic synthesis of psychedelic grunge and classic rock", with variety of influences that range from Muse, Pearl Jam, David Bowie and Tom Petty, the sounds of Model Stranger have appealed to listeners across multiple genres. Upon releasing their debut album Dreams and Bones in 2010, the band spent the next 2 years playing 180 shows and have since showcased their strength as a live band. Their subsequent EP's, 2013's The Changing Score and 2015's Imitation Act, have taken their listeners on a sonic journey that showcases the bands evolving sound. The band recently released their latest album, an LP entitled Phases, which the band describes as the beginning, middle and end of the past decade for the band. Having spent the last several years on the road touring and promoting their music, the band decided to take a break to focus on songwriting, feeling the need to write and record some fresh music. The first single from the album, "Breaks My Heart", shows off the band's range and ability. They shot the music video in a basement in one night, using an iPhone and a single light. The album's second single, "Pick Me", showcases their energy as a band. The trio plans to keep writing and recording and will be releasing more music videos and new tracks in the coming months. You can connect with Model Stranger via the following links:
Website | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter | Spotify | SoundCloud | iTunes/Apple Music | YouTube | Deezer | Bandcamp
You recently released your new album Phases and have described it as the beginning, middle and end of the past decade for you guys. Having put out your first record 10 years ago, what do you see as the story of the band over the past 10 years? How do you feel your sound has evolved over the years and how have you each grown as artists?
Vincent Joseph- As a whole we have not only matured as a unit, but literally grew up together throughout the last decade. Our story always revolved around this “analog band living in a digital era” attitude. We looked up to our idols from the 60’s & 90’s and the whole cultural movement amongst them. We toured and tried to make connections with fans one on one and we partied and crashed at fans homes throughout the years. These fans became friends and we all became part of our own microcosm, our own culture. However, throughout the years we have had to adjust and move that into a digital landscape, which is what we are attempting to do now. We have played large rooms and festivals to many people and we have played bars to a handful of people, but we have always connected with those people in front of us- now it is us trying to connect with people through our keyboards and social media. We have experienced a lot of personal changes throughout the past decade from success to personal heartache to loss of loved ones and everything in between- but we have experienced these phases together and that is what we have tried to capture in this new record. The sound has evolved from something raw and angst riddled to something more polished but still with edge. From Rock N’ Rollers to alternative pop rock with an edge and pop sensibility. More importantly, throughout the years we have learned to listen to one another, play with one another and write with one another- that is how we have all grown the most.
You have said that Phases showcases a couple of different sounds that you love while still maintaining a rock sound, with each track complimenting the next while maintaining their differences. What can you tell me about the process of writing and recording the album?
Vincent Joseph- We originally wrote about 50 songs and whittled it down to 13 for recording. Of those 13, 9 made it onto “Phases”. Each song was written from a different place mentally, emotionally and structurally. Some of the tracks were written around a single hook, where others were completed around an entire vocal/lyrical idea. However, across the board on “Phases” we made the bass & drums a cornerstone with which to build the arrangements. This whole album has solid rhythm with sexy guitar work coloring it in.
You have said you had a lot of songs that you had to narrow down for the album. How did you go about deciding which songs to include? Do you have any plans for the songs that didn't make the album?
Vincent Joseph- Out of the 50 or so songs that were brought to the table, we all agreed as a unit what worked together and what did not. However, we consulted some friends, family members, our producer (Noam Wallenberg) and peers in the industry to get a fresh take on the tracks, as we had grown close to them and wanted non-biased feedback. Once narrowed down to the 13 tracks we wanted to record, we ran them through the gamut focusing on structure, arrangement and fine tune adjustments. After recording the 13 tracks, 9 made it onto the album with the other 4 to be released at later dates. The 9 tracks on “Phases” were intentionally placed and sequenced to be listed to as a whole unit; ideally on vinyl.
What can you tell be about your idea to put golden tickets in random copies of Phases for Record Store Day in Chicago this year?
Vincent Joseph- We do not have a massive fan-base yet, however, our current fan-base is dedicated and we wanted to show that to them in a clever way. The people that had went out (or online) for record store day had an opportunity to get a copy of “Phases” ahead of its release. So if people were going to be engaging with us and supporting local businesses we wanted to give them a little treat, or golden lining to this shit year. So to those of you that got the golden ticket, bravo!
It's pretty uncommon for bands to stick together with their original line up for 10+ years. What has it been like to grow together as a band over the past 10 years? As a band that is completely DIY, do you feel that doing everything yourselves over the years has strengthened your bond?
Vincent Joseph- We have spent more time together than most families spend together, so for us not wanting to murder one another and still be productive together says something. It is by no means easy being an independent band; it is not all sex, drugs and rock n’ roll. We pour A LOT of time, sweat, blood tears and money into this. We have sacrificed family, personal relationships, birthdays and milestones to make this work. But when the end result is that we can keep doing this, it is worth it. We get to create music and connect with people in a positive and meaningful way. What else could someone ask for?
What can you tell me about your recent single "Breaks My Heart", as well as the video? What was it like to shoot the video in one night on an iPhone using a single light?
Vincent Joseph- We normally have a heavy hand in the video content (if not all), however, we handed over the reins of the plot to Mat Dimare for this one (he also shot our music videos for “Stare”, “Balance”, and edited “Pick Me”). He had a vision for something in particular and it really worked well with the song. We are used to shooting videos within a day, however, being that this was all on an iPhone made the process go even quicker. Matt really had the story board and concept narrowed down, so we worked extremely efficiently. Plus, a lot of our videos have most of the work done in post-production…I mean we can only look pretty in front of a camera for so long.
You also released the single "Pick Me", the song structure of which is not your usual approach to songwriting but is just the way the song developed. What can you tell me about the song as well as the video?
Vincent Joseph- The song came about quicker than any other song on the album. Stephen had written the guitar riff and when he brought that in everything just fell into place. It is definitely the oldest song that was recorded onto “Phases”. It is just a good slammin’ Rock N’ Roll tune that should get your blood pumping and the whiskey flowing. The subject matter could not be more relevant as we are now all imprisoned on our personal devices scrolling through every day with a stamp of approval only a double tap away...I did not mean to rhyme there. The video is one of my favorite concepts we have down and I can’t believe it actually worked out. We had a show at the end of January (just before the Covid Pandemic took root in the states) that was at Lincoln Hall in Chicago. We had our phones set up on stage recording and then asked the audience to send us any footage that they had recorded. All of the compiled footage was then edited into the “Pick Me” video. I am not only pleased with how the video turned out, but was delighted to see how many fans participated and sent in footage, not to mention the nostalgia of looking at a sold out audience for a live music performance… something we will not see again for some time.
What has it been like for you guys to try to reach your audience virtually during this age of COVID? What have been some of your biggest challenges? Has anything surprised you about trying to navigate this time as a band? What do you see as the state of the music industry once COVID is over?
Vincent Joseph- This age of Covid has been trying to say the least, but we are adapting as best we can. Moving as much into the realm of the internet, social media, streaming and just staying busy with business and writing new music. Model Stranger has always prided ourselves on our live performances and touring and that simply cannot happen right now. We did perform a couple of live streams which were much more fun than I anticipated and the best consolation for not being able to have a proper ‘record release party.’ Those can be found on our Facebook page and Gigmor Live Twitch page. It’s times like these that I am grateful Model Stranger has stayed independent and that we are not indebted to a massive corporation. We are able to break into a new era of the industry that will be forever changed. Overall, the state of the music industry will be forever shifted and the power structure is under construction. I think the music venues will be much more willing to broker a reasonable working relationship with artists moving forward, because they will have to in order to keep their doors open at this point. The future is unclear to say the least, but musicians are learning that we do not need anyone other than our craft, our voice, some hard work and a high speed internet connection to succeed- while the industry as a whole requires us to succeed- so this may be a change for the better. I just look forward to playing live again when the time is responsible and right.
You guys have played a Halloween show at the Elbo Room in Chicago every year from 2009-2019. What was it like to not play one this year and what are some of your fondest memories and favorite costumes from past shows? What did you guys do for Halloween? Stephen-As a lover of scary movies, what are your favorites?
Vincent Joseph- We started that event (Bands Being Bands) over 10 years ago not thinking what it would become: an annual sold-out-party that was always the most fun event of the year at one of the best clubs in Chicago that we have always held close to our hearts. We have been David Bowie (2010), Nirvana (2011), Foo Fighters (2012), The Beatles (rooftop/last show 2013), ZZ Top (2014), Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers (2015), The Red Hot Chili Peppers (2016), The Beatles (pre-Rubber Soul 2017), The Doors (2018), Madonna (2019). Although, I would like to say ZZ Top was the most fun, I do not think anything could top our performance last year as Madonna. It was simply magical and we were all different era “Madonnas.” I don’t know where we could have gone from that, but I do know it would have been a blast. At least it came to an end after so many consecutive years of selling it out and so many great memories. It’s better to go out on a high note, right? For Halloween we all did the responsible thing and stayed home, while watching movies. I watched a friend stream his Halloween special: Otto Von Schirach’s “Live from Draculo’s Castle”. For the record- Stephen uses my Shudder account and will watch what horror movies I allow him to prior to putting him to bed. And it is not a fair question. The best “scary” movies vary on genre, time of release, etc. But some top runners across all boards are: Re-Animator, Alien, Night of The Living Dead, 28 Days Later, When A Stranger Calls, Poltergeist and The Little Mermaid.
What's next for Model Stranger?
Vincent Joseph- We will be releasing a few more videos in support of “Phases” and hopefully be able to tour on the album in the coming year(s). Regardless of touring, we will be releasing some new tracks and videos in the winter and spring too. We are continuously writing and recording new content that will all eventually make its way out into the world. We are navigating these times just like everyone else and trying to find the best way to continuously connect with people, so cheers to the unknown!
QUARANTINE PROFILE: Ben Kessler
We’ve launch a profile series to highlight how artists are spending their time during quarantine. Several times a week we’ll highlight a new artist across the globe and see how they’re keeping busy during COVID-19 lockdowns.
Ben Kessler has been budding his music career in the Philly area for what seems like over a decade now. After going to Nashville for school, quarantine has brought him back to the Philly area to record some new tunes, including his latest single with another Philly burb musician Lizzy McAlpine. “False Art” has been spreading across the internet world for a month now and it further proves that with each new release Ben’s tunes just seem to get better. We have a chat with Ben about how his lockdown is going.
Ben Kessler Online: Spotify | Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube | Website
Where have you been spending your quarantine?
In my basement studio working on music!
How have you been staying busy during quarantine?
I've been writing & producing my first EP!
What quarantine trend(s) have you fallen prey to?
I've gotten back on my meditation grind - thankfully
Album you’ve had on repeat:
The new Glass Animals album is pretty dope
If you could only watch one film or TV show for the rest of time what would it be?
Community
What is keeping you happy?
Making music everyday!
QUARANTINE PROFILE: slenderbodies
We’ve launch a profile series to highlight how artists are spending their time during quarantine. Several times a week we’ll highlight a new artist across the globe and see how they’re keeping busy during COVID-19 lockdowns.
West coast duo slenderbodies released their second album komorebi last year. Incase you need a definition, komorebi is the Japanese term for the sunlight as it filters through the trees. A mantra I personally like to live in is finding the light in the little things, especially this year, so I find komorebi to be a great concept to find peace in. If you’re not familiar with slenderbodies, their tunes offer an embrace of layered sounds in the vein of artists like Glass Animal. We have a chat with Benji and Max from slenderbodies about what they’ve been up to in lockdown in our latest Quarantine Profile.
slenderbodies Online: Spotify | Instagram | Twitter | Facebook
Where have you been spending your quarantine?
Max lives in San Diego! I spent half of this year in Half Moon Bay, CA but recently moved to Austin TX!
How have you been staying busy during quarantine? (or not keeping busy is totally fine too
Of course we’ve been keeping up with making lots of music, but beyond that a tons of DIY projects!! Max has gotten super into renovating his house while i’ve built some sound panels and some furniture. Dabbling in drawing and painting here and there as well. Playing a LOT of videogames as well
Go to quarantine snack:
Kale salad! 1 head of kale, 2 handfuls sunflower seeds, half red onion, lemon and liquid aminos to taste. delicious and light :)
Something keeping Benji from slenderbodies sane: Breeze
Song (or album) you’ve had on repeat:
been listening to Kraak and Smaak’s Pleasure Center a whole bunch
What’s your go to song to make you feel less alone? / What’s a song that is your go to comfort jam?
I love to listen to “7 billion people all alive at once” by And So I Watch You From Afar. Also “Gymnopedie no 1” by Erik Satie really calms me down
What do you hope we take away from this?
I hope we take away rational compassion and respect for science. Maybe a little more emphasis on truly connecting directly to people rather than reliance on social media.
Anything new we should know about that you’re working on?
expect tons of new music soon :)
INTERVIEW: Molly Moore
Molly Moore
The Photo Ladies Interview - by Emily May
Molly Moore wants to change the conversation surrounding the identity crisis society is facing in the age of the internet. The NY-born and LA-based artist has always loved music and graduated from high school 6 months early in order to focus on her music, making the move to LA at 19. Aside from her dreams of creating her own music, Moore honed her songwriting skills and wrote songs for artists such as Jesse McCartney, Steve Aoki and Lea Michele. Formerly part of the duo Cosmos & Creature with her then boyfriend Brandyn Burnette, she also released three solo albums during that time, becoming an accomplished artist in her own right. In 2018, with the death of her father and ending of her relationship, Moore ventured out on her own, focusing solely on her solo career for the first time. Her recently released singles "Identity Crisis" and "Careful", from her upcoming album Voice of The Internet, share the message of being addicted as a society to social media and how to know if what you see on the internet is real or not. The album was written following her break up as she watched her ex move on while she wasn’t ready to do so herself. It is an ode to her journey towards self-discovery and tells of her personal journey through her music. “I was going through the actual separation and embracing myself,” she admits. “I decided to focus on me and give my solo career the shot I had never really given it, because I was always so focused on the band with my ex and doing things with him together. It was healing to be able to make music that showed independence versus being so overwhelmed by romantic pursuits. I tried to break the cycle and adjust on my own, so I could be a whole person the next time I got into a relationship.” “When you hear the record, I hope you don’t need to text or call your ex at three in the morning,” she leaves off. “You could put this on instead. I want you to cry to it and dance to it. I embraced being on my own. You have the same power.” Her latest single "Always Gonna Love You" is one of the more personal tracks on the album and is a bittersweet testament and reminder that regardless of what was and what could have been, the power of love is imminent. “This song is the result of connecting with another female artist after we both had gone through breakups. I had been needing to get this out for a while and we had a long conversation about how no matter what circumstances could've been different, ultimately you can't stop love when it's inevitable,” shares Molly. With a livestream event and more music to release, Moore admits that she is just getting started. This is just the beginning for her and she is looking forward to forging ahead with her music. You can connect with Molly Moore via the following links.
Website | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter | Spotify | SoundCloud | iTunes/Apple Music | YouTube | Deezer | last.fm | Tidal
You grew up in a pretty musical household and graduated high school 6 months early to focus on recording music, moving to LA when you were 19 to begin pursuing your career as a songwriter. What was that like for you, to make that move to LA at such a young age?
It was crazy and was quite a transition. I think I was a bit over-confident at that time in my life and it definitely humbled me, which I think was necessary. I was so young and I think I thought I was a lot older than I was. I met a lot of people when I came out here and a lot of people that I kind of already knew from New York were coming out to LA around the same time. It was cool and was a lot of fun and was a wild time. I mean, I don't really even know if I would say that I would go back and change anything because I wouldn't be who I am now. It was definitely a really crazy, kind of tumultuous time for me but was great in a lot of ways. I got to do a lot of collaborating with other people and getting to know different people in LA. That's sort of the name of the game when you get here, just getting to know a lot of different people and hopefully over time you find yours.
You have said that your move to LA helped you to grow into yourself and that being able to work with other people and see their perspective on writing and music helped you to feel pretty confident about your own perspective. How do you feel that writing songs for other artists helped you to find your own perspective as an artist?
That's a great question! I think it sort of led me away from that for a while and then led me to it. I grew up acting and love having different characters and playing different roles. I think that's why I love writing for other artists too. When I came out to LA when I was younger, I think I had a misunderstanding about what it really means to be a great songwriter for other artists. I learned along the way that, you know, it really matters what your perspective is and if you have a voice that people want to align with. I think I was more so hoping to step into somebody else's shoes and become another artist to write for them. But in reality, I realized that developing my own voice is how I can help someone else develop theirs. By having something clear in myself, and knowing how I got there, I could then help somebody else find their perspective of that and what that means for them.
You've written for other artists like Lea Michele, Steve Aoki and Jesse McCartney. When you moved to LA, was your initial goal to solely write for other artists or did you want to write your own music, as well?
I always wanted to do both. I think that I hoped songwriting would help me to pursue my own artist career in a lot of ways. In a lot of ways it did and in a lot of ways it didn't. It's always kind of a mixed bag. When I came out here, I think I wanted to work with other people but didn't know how to get anybody to care about my artist projects. I mean it wasn't only that, but part of me thought "Well, if I'm writing for other artists and working with more people, I can meet more people and just make more songs" and that's kind of what happened.
You were previously part of the duo Cosmos and Creature and during that time you released solo albums, as well. What was it like during that time for you to do both, and what is it like for you now to be able to focus solely on your own music instead of having to go back and forth between the two projects?
You know, it was an amazing time of my life and was, again, a crazy time. A lot of my life has been crazy. There was pressure from other people to kind of choose which one we were going to focus on, if it was going to be our solo projects or the project we had together. What we decided is that it was both and that we could do that. That was a risk for us to take, I think, because it's hard for other people to understand how you can do multiple things at once. But we would incorporate our solo projects into our live sets and stuff like that, which was awesome and kind of helped people to understand what our vibe was. We were like "We're not giving up on our solo projects. We have music we make together and love to perform it and that's it." I definitely was putting a lot of energy towards the duo when we were doing it and were in that relationship, so I think most of my energy was going there. I will say that ever since I started putting my energy back...well, not even back, because I don't even know if it ever was even fully in my solo project. I think I always was excited about making music on my own, but then it sort of grew into this duo that I was also really excited about for a long time. Now, it's like I'm actually focusing on myself fully for the first time and it's amazing. I just feel like I'm growing a lot and it's nice to be able to just learn and apply what I'm learning. I feel like I'm helping other people when I do get into a room to write for someone else. I feel like I have sort of found a place in my own music where I'm excited and feel like I've established how I can use my voice. That, I think, helps everything.
You've talked about your journey in learning how to let go of trying to control when you are writing your best work or when you are super productive and learning to let the work come to you. What has that process been like for you?
It's nice. I think I find more of it in this time period where people aren't doing as many sessions in person and there's not as much fluff happening, I feel, as far as random things being set up. I got into a cycle when I was making my album where I was working so much and really had a lot to say and was the thing that kind of saved me. That being said, in this time I've been able to start even writing on guitar again, which is something I lost touch with in working with other producers for so long. I've been relearning guitar and that's been a lot of fun. I think the ideas that I'm writing now are just...it's opening up because I have now gone through this loss and heartbreak and have written about that. I always will, but I think what I'm writing about now is becoming more about my own process and about love, still, in a lot of ways, both fortunately or unfortunately...however you want to look at it. A lot of the music I'm starting to make now is also just about my own journey, which I think is nice. It's just everything I've been through up to this point.
You'll be releasing your new album Voice of The Internet on November 13th and is an ode to your journey towards self-discovery. What can you tell me about making the album and what you learned about yourself in the process?
Yeah. I learned that I was really angry, listening back to the songs (laughs). I learned that I didn't have to judge myself so much for that anger and that it was ok and was warranted. Maybe growing and...maybe anger and sadness on someone else isn't cool...but I think that making art that's true to what you are going through and accepting that and having sort of an acceptance for the raw versions of those emotions is something that I've really had to learn in this process. There were times when I was like "Ok. I can't do this. It's too much." I was pouring it all out and it's scary, because it's about a relationship where everybody kind of knows who it's about, so it's just scary, you know? Well, obviously not new fans, but the people who have been following my career and the people I'm excited to share this body of work with, as much as new people, as well. I'm really excited for my music to reach new people too. So yeah, there was just a lot of acceptance that went into letting myself express the heartbreak as vulnerably as I did.
You have also said that in recent years the production of your tracks has evolved into a 50/50 mix of having a concrete plan going into the process and trying new things to see what fits. What has that evolution been like for you?
It's always different I find. Everybody's kind of different, unless you are working with the same person consistently, which I have been lucky enough to do on the next body of work. On the first body of work, I was working with a lot of different producers and found that adding live elements like horns and live guitar and live bass helps to bring out the soulful influence that I kind of start my music with. That's something that I have been learning daily, the importance of keeping my sound consistent and evolving too. I love musicians and live instruments and there's just nothing like that. They make every synth for it, that can sound like a guitar or sound like a piano, but when you just really have those instruments, it's something so special, when someone really knows how to play. It's generally not me (laughs).
You have doing 'Voice on The Internet talks'. What led you to want to start doing those talks and how has it been going?
It's been going! I did the first one a couple of weeks back. I have yet to do the next one, but was actually just thinking about that today because I have a friend that I wanted to do it, but he isn't available anymore so I have to switch things up. I've been thinking of doing it with my best friend Maddie for the second episode. It's something I'm going to be rolling out once the album is out. I'm going to be doing a lot more of that. The first one was amazing, as well. Sidney Tipton was my guest and she's an incredible artist and songwriter. We talked about identity crisis and how you can find yourself in an identity crisis when you are a female in the world and in the music industry. Men too. Everybody goes through a time when they feel lost. We kind of just dug into that and expectations and the things we project in our personality as almost like a coping mechanism to get through life. There's a certain point where you realize "Oh. That's not serving me. That's just serving other people." There were just a lot of conversations about that and why and how to break through that and it was a lot of fun. I'm excited about talking openly about that stuff, because that's just my life. It's who I am and I think that's what we should talk about. I don't understand why we talk about the weather or even sports. I don't like sports. It's been really cool to share the this on Instagram. I think I want to maybe develop it further, beyond that platform, so I'm still trying to figure that out to see if I can widen the reach in some way.
Along those same lines, you recently released your two singles "Identity Crisis" and "Careful", which share a complimentary message of being addicted as a society to social media and the idea of how to know if what you see online is real or not. Was there a specific thing that inspired those songs for you and what are your views on social media in general right now and the effect it's having on society?
Yeah. There was definitely a specific inspiration for that, which my whole album is inspired by, which is just, like, how do you get over someone when the internet exists? Especially if they've moved on and you haven't. It's just crazy, and what I realized is that I was falling victim to a lot of things that I didn't think I was susceptible to, in just looking avidly online to see who my ex was trying to date now. It was insane how I started to feel really bad about myself, because I was comparing myself to the types of girls that he liked, which is, like, sick! And so many people do it because it's there for you to do. It's this easy thing and there's no conversation really about it. It's like, it happens and people tell you to block that person and eventually you do or you don't. I realized that I couldn't block him out of my brain and that I needed to realize what I want and not let the world that's been created around me define what I create for myself. I decided to be alone and was like "This is going to suck but I'm just going to be alone and be with myself and figure out who I am and what I want." In that time, I really just realized how the internet plays a role in...either you can really establish who you are and identify with what's real or you can project an image that's a slightly altered version or you can project an image that's completely different. And it's not really received any differently all across the board. There are genuine people and there are really fake people who succeed on the internet. For me, I was just sitting back and analyzing this and realizing that I didn't want to be a part of that. I only wanted to be a part of the internet if I was going to help it move forward and evolve and realized I had to do that in myself. It's really about intention, I think, at the end of the day and realizing you have to decide that for yourself. No amount of memes or posts can tell you who you are. I mean, there are really actually helpful people on social media who are helping to evolve it, and there are great uses to making a funny post and making people laugh and all of that. I'm not hating on any of it, but there's a lot misinformation and I just want people to realize they can think for themselves.
You have said that in recent years you have been able to doing music full time and have been working on your work/life balance. How has trying to find that balance been going for you?
I am finding it every day. I am also realizing the importance of it every day, which I think is a key part to finding it. I lost touch with it for a long time to be honest and still struggle with it, but it is something that I am actively working on and taking time for myself throughout the day. I tend to be an over-worker and get into certain modes of working on certain things and can lose sight of a whole portion of what I have to do because I will funnel in and focus on something. I'm just realizing how much time management plays into taking care of yourself and having a self-care routine and balanced life and all of the success of a business, you know? It's kind of scary, like realizing I failed because of me and not because of anybody else. I'm the business. It's just making sure that I take care of myself and my mental health and my body. I'm literally just now realizing the importance of it, at 28 years old. I actually got sick about a month ago because I wasn't eating enough or drinking enough, and it's crazy to think that can happen and you don't even realize you're doing it. You don't even know that you aren't eating enough throughout the day. I've definitely been working more time for balance into my schedule.
You have also composed children's music for the Hasbro animated series 'Hanazuki'. What can you tell me about that series and how you came to work on it?
It was awesome. The opportunity came through somebody we were working with at the time and it was a lot of fun. We were writing so many songs at that time that a lot of what we were writing actually kind of fit into what the needs were for the music for the show. We also wrote a lot of songs from scratch after having watched the episodes, which was really cool because I've never done anything like that, where I'm getting visual inspiration for music. I'd also never made...well, I guess I've written a couple of scenes over the years where I submitted them for pitches...but I'd never really done it. It was my first time getting to write music for children and having that come out, which was really cool.
You have talked about being raised by spiritual parents and were raised to acknowledge the energy in the world and the universe and what's out there. What are your thoughts on the world right now? I've read a lot of people talking about a great awakening happening right now. Do you feel like that is happening?
Absolutely! There's definitely a massive shift happening. I can feel it every day and every moment. With darkness comes light and with light comes darkness and I feel a lot of the concepts and knowledge that people have really dug into the past year is incredible. It's something that gives me hope for the future. There's a lot of corruption and a lot of imbalance in the world and a lot of pain at the hands of powerful people. I think that is something I hope to be able to work to change in my life, in any way that I can, literally. I do feel like there's a great awakening happening and I feel it's happening to me simultaneously. I feel like I've been able to kind of deal with a lot in the last 6 months that I was running from prior. It's amazing and is a great feeling to not run from things. It's almost like we were all just shoved inside because we were just all running from everything. Or maybe it was just me (laughs). I feel like I have noticed friends talking to me and other artists who feel like they are on similar paths. I know, for me in particular, it's a very personal journey where I feel like I've had to kind of rebuild and with that has come a freedom from a lot of old habits and emotions that I refused to feel for a long time. Simultaneously, I feel that the world is kind of opening its third eye and seeing what's actually happening. It's beautiful and amazing. I've unfortunately been kind of feeling this way for a while about the state of society and not knowing how I could personally make a large enough impact to matter. I feel like every day I'm learning more about how to do that and feel like other people are starting to align with a deeper purpose in life, as well. It's very exciting.
I sometimes feel like maybe all of the slowing down of society happened for a reason, so that people could be more aware of what is really happening in the world.
It's true, because I can't ever imagine a circumstance where this would have happened, outside of this. I'm not saying I'm happy that people have been getting sick and dying. It's really tragic and I'm not trying to say it's a good thing by any means, in that aspect. I do think of it as people not having as many distractions to the impactful things they are dealing with.
You just released your latest single "Always Gonna Love You". What can you tell me about the track and what was it like to write it over Facetime?
It was crazy! The song was written pretty quickly and we just had this conversation where the girl I wrote it with had just gotten out of a relationship, as well. We were just feeling really similarly about it. We still had lingering feelings and it can be hard to let go of that hope that maybe someday it could work out and that things shouldn't have happened the way that they did. We came to this conclusion that we were both always going to love this person no matter what was different about the circumstances, whether it went perfectly or terribly. It's one of those things where you know it's always going to happen and you are going to feel that way. It's sort of liberating in a way and it's true. When you love someone, you really do have that place in your heart for them and it shouldn't ever really go away, if it was real. That's what I'm telling myself lately.
What's next for you, aside from your album release?
I'm doing a livestream on Tuesday with Jam In A Van, which will be awesome. It will be from their YouTube page and I'll be playing songs from my album. I'm also doing a livestream on November 18th and will be playing more songs from the album. Hopefully close to the whole thing. I'm also working on a second album. I have more music coming out after the album and I'm not stopping. This is just the beginning for me! I'm just excited to be able to connect with the people who have been listening more and building that social relationship online, which is the only place we can be right now. And have more conversations like this. I just hope I get to do more of this!
PLAYLIST: November Current Tunes
We’re back with one of our last playlists of the year. Coming together once again to bring you some of the best tracks we’re listening to right now. Hope you enjoy!
With 100 founding members, and over 1000 Photo Ladies part of our community, we all have a huge variety of musical tastes, and we plan to showcase them each month through our upcoming playlists. Full playlist below, along with some Photo Lady blurbs behind the choices.
“In memory of Helen Reddy’s recent passing, let’s remember that no matter the election results on November 3, the fight is not over! We have a lot of work to do.”
“I’ve always loved The Vaccines. Frontman Justin Young and Timothy Lanham created this side project and it’s been lovely. The entirety of Morning Kiss At The Acropolis has been a staple in my quarantine music jamz” - Jennifer Machuca - @jen_machuca | Submission: Halloween’s - ‘My Baby Looks Good With Another’
”It's a heartbreaking song that will get stuck in your head...be sure to also check out the short film for it with her sister and Shia.” - Stefanie Dabs | @sdabspics | Submission: Rainsford - ‘Love Me Like You Hate Me’
“If you’re missing gigs turn this on & you’ll 110% feel transplanted to a sweaty indie gig with your best buds ”
“James Blake always manages to surprise me, either with the melodies and soundscapes or subject matter. Happy boy or Sad boy, i’ll take any version of James i can get.”
“The two tracks share a complimentary message which can be heard throughout Molly’s debut album, Voice on the Internet (out November 13th), about being addicted to social media and the idea that it is difficult to know if what you see online is real.” - Emily May | @emilymayphotography37 | Submission: Molly Moore - “Careful” / ”Identity Crisis”
“Brandy (not the R&B singer who once played Moesha) is a NYC trio and this opening track from their new record is a song I’ve been listening to a lot around my apartment. ”
“I first heard this song while watching Warrior Nun on Netflix and thought it was such an awesome song.”
QUARANTINE PROFILE: Gatlin
We’ve launch a profile series to highlight how artists are spending their time during quarantine. Several times a week we’ll highlight a new artist across the globe and see how they’re keeping busy during COVID-19 lockdowns.
Nashville songwriter Gatlin released her debut EP Sugarcoated earlier this year. It’s packed full of some delightful Folk-Pop infused bops, thoughtful songwriting and been seeing some Spotify playlist love. We’re excited to catch-up with Gatlin to see what she’s been up to during lockdown.
Where have you been spending your quarantine?
I’ve been in Nashville for most all of quarantine, however I did get my tonsils taken out back in July so spent that month in Florida so my momma could take care of me.
What quarantine trend have you fallen prey to?
I am definitely hooked to TikTok now. I spend an embarrassing amount of time on it!
Song (or album) you’ve had on repeat:
Haim’s Women in Music Pt. 3 !!!!!!
What is keeping you happy?
I’ve super duper gotten into yoga. It’s something I always wish I had more time for in real life. So now I get to do it most days and has been the thing to keep me sane and joyful during this time. The only part of my week that has routine.
What’s the best advice you’ve received during this time?
I think I’ve received the most grace from the people around me during this time. My mental health has not been great and sometimes I’ve been bummed about my productivity. Everyone responds with such kindness and empathy! We’re entering uncharted territories with this pandemic and the way we respond is OKAY because it’s so not what humans are supposed to experience.
Anything new we should know about that you’re working on?
I’m currently working on another EP! I’m writing it all with my producer so we’ve been keeping socially distant and working a lot in the studio. Hopefully the project will come out early spring of 2021.
INTERVIEW: Ruby Mack
Ruby Mack
The Photo Ladies Interview
Feminist folk group Ruby Mack, comprised of Emma Ayers (vocals/guitar), Abbie Duquette (bass ukelele), Zoe Young (guitar/vocals), and Abs Kahler (fiddle), explore a unique perspective on the story of Adam and Eve for their recently released debut album Devil Told Me. On the album, they imagine themselves as direct descendants of Eve in a timeline in which she unashamedly bites into the apple in the Garden of Eden, sharing the knowledge she learns with the rest of the world. Hailing from Pioneer Valley, MA, the group was formerly called the Emma June Band but recently changed their name to Ruby Mack, taking their name from their areas Ruby McIntosh apple. Proud of their deep New England Roots, all 4 members feeling deep ties to different parts of the New England landscape. With their new album, the quartet question what it means to be a woman, offering new perspectives through old stories and present their own brand of folk that casts the genre in a different light than folk songs of the past. They give credit to their time spent in Pioneer Valley, MA, a place full of magical energy, inspiration and a cooperative spirit that fueled their music and shaped who they wanted to be as musicians. The band recorded their album in an old church with engineer Andrew Oedel of Ghost Hit Recording, giving the album a decidedly live feel. “We really wanted it to have that special magic of a collaborative performance, and the energy we get from singing together,” explains Young. The result is a group of confessional and uplifting songs. Their goal is to question what society expects of them, embody and express their true identities, and inspire others to do the same...to be themselves in a world that wants to dictate how it feels people should be and the roles they should play, especially womxn. With plan to write and release more singles until they can safely tour again, Ruby Mack is definitely a band to keep on your radar. You can connect with the band and purchase their album via the following links:
Website | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter | Spotify | iTunes/Apple Music | YouTube | Deezer | Bandcamp
You all met through the Massachusetts folk scene after each making your own music prior. What led you to want to form a band together and what other projects are you a part of outside of Ruby Mack? What can you tell me about your goal as a band of pushing aside societal norms and boundaries?
ZOE YOUNG: Emma and I actually grew up together as family friends (we’ve always called ourselves sisters) and have been singing together our whole lives, so I guess that is where our band story really begins. Then Emma, Abs, and I attended the University of Massachusetts, Amherst where we started playing music together with a few other folks. Abs and I teach at the Kid’s Academy at Greyfox Bluegrass Music Festival and we made Emma come one year. The three of us started playing on some tunes that Emma had written and things just fell into place. When Emma introduced us to Abbie in 2018, we began playing as a foursome- she was the missing piece we had been needing. The four of us all share the same sense of humor which definitely holds us together in both the tough moments and the happy moments and helped create a space for us to experiment musically. We never set out to be a band that pushed aside societal norms. I think it’s just in our nature to push the boundaries of what society expects from us as women and nonbinary people. Individually, we all have big personalities and we don’t like being told what we can and cannot do in the world of music. Singing together feeds us, fuels us, and inspires us to show up authentically in the world. And we quickly learned that others felt held and fed by our music. So that’s what we set out to do- feed our own hearts and in turn, the hearts of others. Outside of Ruby Mack, Emma has her own solo project under the name Emma Ayres.
You will be releasing your new album Devil Told Me on October 23rd on which you reclaim the story of Adam and Eve and question why Eve shouldn't be able to bite into knowledge. What led you to want to explore this concept for your album? What can you tell me about the recording process, which took place in an old church and gives the album a live sound?
ZOE YOUNG: The theme that runs through this collection of songs is about being brave enough to show up as yourself, and to ask for what you want. Without curiosity and being willing to try things, what is there? Without accepting the good and the bad in life as it comes, as Eve did, what is the point? To us, there is no good without the bad, and there is no bad without the good, both must exist at once.
We decided we wanted to record most of our album live, meaning instead of tracking out each instrument and vocal part separately, we recorded each song all together in a full live take. We wanted our spontaneity and the energy we get from one another to be captured in the recordings. The only song that we did not record live was “Milktooth”, which really came together the day we recorded it in the studio. Abs wrote their fiddle lines live in the studio, making us all cry in the control room as they recorded it. The harmonies were also arranged that day in the studio, and the recording reflects the live collaboration we all value so much.
ABBIE DUQUETTE: It was the icing on the cake that we recorded in an old converted church — not intentional, but damn does it really make the concept of the album come full circle.
What can you tell me about your mission to push social boundaries aside with this album, exploring feminism and social justice through the lenses of religion and mythology? Emma-what can you tell me about your love for oral tradition and storytelling and how that influenced the album?
EMMA AYRES: In the wise words of Pete Seeger: “This machine kills fascists.” Seeger was blacklisted in the 50’s after being accused of being communist by the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC). His songs were a vehicle for social justice organizing. When you can get a room full of energized people singing your lyrics, it becomes a powerful and memorable way to spread a message. The weapon of a song, when yielded by queer folk musicians, is dangerous to the white cis hetero capitalist patriarchy. A song can challenge the status quo and put hatred and other forms of oppression “on notice.” This specific lineage of folk music has always been a source of inspiration for me. When I wrote the lyrics to most of the songs on the album, I employed the lens of Greek mythology to amplify, illuminate, and celebrate the working class. Working class folks make the world go round and it is vital that they/our stories go down in history like Homer’s Odyssey. I see a song as an opportunity to shed a holy light on marginalized identities and a church where a bigoted listener can worship a queer god without realizing it. Music is a powerful force of unity and a way to humanize across identities, political beliefs, and religious values. A melody can be the messenger of an urgent message even if the listener doesn’t understand the words. The message subconsciously becomes one with the listener.
With this album, you dig deeper into what it means to be a woman or even to reject this label. What does being a woman or gender non-conforming mean to you? Do you see womxn pushing back more and more in today's society against the societal norms that they have been taught to accept?
ABBIE DUQUETTE: Hell yeah — I think we saw that with the Women’s March in Jan 2017, we saw that over the midterm elections by electing a record number of BIPOC womxn, we have seen it over social media with the 'Me Too' movement, etc. I’m a firm believer that until our most unrepresented humans in this country are treated with the respect and humanity that is their right, we ALL have work to do. I think the collective “we” of non-cis white males are building strength and understanding that we don’t just deserve a seat at the table, but that we can run the table — and we should look around and not see only people that look like ourselves.
For me, what it means to be a “woman” changes every day. I’m sitting here thinking about what it means and how I feel right now when I hear the word, and I just feel power and strength. I think of all of the badass womxn over the course of history across the world, and am so happy we’re part of that giant community. Womxn = Power.
ABS KAHLER: For starters let me say that we could probably spend hours, days, a lifetime talking about gender (I wish we could!). I view gender as more of a journey than a destination. I have a gorgeous print hanging on my wall from Kah Yangni, a Black trans Philly based illustrator, that reads “Trans is freedom, is adventure, is endless!” which I think sums this up perfectly. The gender binary is largely a tool of colonization, and I am learning how to define my identity outside of this false binary. I believe there is a softness, a strength, and a beauty to femininity that is incomparable to anything else in this world. I view claiming femininity in a society that tells me that being feminine is the worst thing I can be as the ultimate display of courage. It’s important to me that I actively choose my femininity and it’s not something I let society decide for me. I embody masculinity in a host of other ways that I’m still learning how to convey and embody, and very much feel my femininity and masculinity inform one another. Being able to present exactly how I feel on any given day gives me a sense of great freedom and gender euphoria, and I hope that everyone, whether cis or trans gets to experience this to their fullest potential. I do very much see womxn are pushing back more and more against societal norms and fighting against patriarchy and the gender norms that harm not only women but greatly harm men as well.
Pioneer Valley, MA has been especially inspiring for you and has been a main inspiration for the new album. What can you tell me about Pioneer Valley and the inspiration it has had on you and your music? How do you feel that the music culture of Massachusetts has helped you to find your identity as musicians?
ABS KAHLER: I’m wildly grateful that fate placed me in The Valley for four formative years in my early adulthood. There were many queer folk artists I met in the folk scene out in western Massachusetts who I was able to collaborate with and fiddle for who are still some of my favorite artists to this day. I recognized at the time how privileged I was to play with such talented artists, and remember the joy of doing so, but what I didn’t recognize back then was how big a part of my identity my queerness would become. Looking back I think that seeing these artists live their lives authentically and hearing their music reflect that authenticity really drew me in and allowed me to explore my own identity in a unique way. Nowadays it’s really important to me to use the platform that Ruby Mack gives me to create a safe space for other queer folks and send all of the love out into the world I possibly can, whether that’s through words or through fiddle melodies.
ZOE YOUNG: I’m not sure what it is about the Pioneer Valley, but the energy here is just magical. Compared to the bustling city life in Boston, life out here feels slower, and more intentional. The folk music scene is vibrant, and people really show up for their communities, and value the local agriculture, music, and art. There are so many local, community organized events, some favorites include the Garlic & Arts Festival and Green River Music Festival, which all highlight local vendors and talent, and value folks coming together to experience all things beautiful together. The music scene in western Massachusetts has absolutely held us and encouraged us throughout our journey as a band these past few years and inspired us to write and play from our hearts, knowing that it will be received with love and support.
You have said that, with regards to changing your name from Emma June Band to Ruby Mack, that your new name grounds you to your New England Roots. Why is that connection important to you?
ABBIE DUQUETTE: New England is our home! It’s where we grew up, and where we learned to be human beings. We all have strong ties to different parts of NE, and through that, have found so much love and support across this area. Venues that have taken chances on us, hometowns have nurtured us, and our family and friends have been our loudest cheerleaders. We are all very connected to our families — birth and chosen — and have nurtured a huge community here. Maintaining our relationships and holding these spaces close are vital parts of our identity as a band.
Two of the songs on the new album, "Jane", a love song for those who feel that they can't exist as their true selves in the world and "Milktooth", a queer coming of age song that you've described as letting go of all of the stories about who you were as a child. What can you tell me about your own journeys of self-discovery and acceptance and using your platform as a way to amplify LGBTQIA voices and issues?
EMMA AYRES: I came out to myself through my lyrics when I was a teenager as it was the most comfortable way for me to share myself at the time. I liked to conceal my identity in metaphors and hoped that maybe someone would crack the code. I would avidly listen to the music of Ani DiFranco and Tegan and Sara, who were my only visible icons of queerness. I hope in using my platform as a musician to talk about and celebrate queerness that one day I can be that social mirror for a young high schooler to see themselves in and smile and take comfort that there are other people out there like them and everything is going to be ok.
I wrote this song in the aftermath of the Pulse Night Club shooting and it is an ode to those who lost their lives on that tragic night and anyone out there reading this post who cannot safely be who they are or is afraid to be who they are. You are not alone. To all straight folks out there—Take a moment of silence for the trans, gay, lesbian, bisexual, non-binary, queer, intersex, asexual and questioning lives that are lost every day on this earth as a result of hate, suppression, misunderstanding, suicide, police brutality, domestic violence etc. Specifically, BIPOC lives. Allies—educate yourselves. Say no to bigotry and hatred. Say no in big ways and little ways. Say no to the white cis patriarchal corporatization of LGBTQIA culture. Fill in the missing colors of the commodified rainbow and reclaim it in the name of we the people. We can do better than THIS.
Your music reflects topics not typically covered in folk music and you have talked about existing in an industry that was not made for you? What can you tell me about your journey into folk music and your journey as musicians in that genre and in the music industry in general?
EMMA AYRES: I think that when you are true to yourself and in your performance, it doesn’t matter what topic you are singing about. People connect with the universality of authenticity and open heartedness. I think that we are unique in that we are unabashedly ourselves and perform from the heart. We are thrilled to continue to work with the industry and push it to continue to evolve into a market that elevates and compensates marginalized voices. The music industry is a state of mind and we can all shape it into what we believe it can be if we work together.
What can you tell me about your love for improvisation, which you have said is where the magic is made for your music?
ABBIE DUQUETTE: Improvisation is what keeps us on our toes and interesting! I personally think it’s how we all grow and learn as musicians. The best part is when one of us tries something new and it inspires another person to do something and then all of a sudden you have this avalanche of new ideas and energy. Another huge part of our work is vocal harmony. We’re at our best when we’re not focused on our individual parts, but rather listening to how we blend and communicate with each other while singing. There’s intimacy and trust that is built through this process.
Emma- You are also the program coordinator and marketing director for Shea Theater. What can you tell me about your work with them and the "Shea Away" concert series that is being held every Wednesday in October, in conjunction with the Great Falls Farmer's Market?
EMMA AYRES: The Shea is the beating heart of the Franklin County arts scene. As the program coordinator I work tirelessly to prioritize the representation of queer local artists and BIPOC artists. The Shea Away concert series is an effort to bring the inside out in partnership with the Garlic and Arts Festival and the Great Falls Farmers Market. I am committed to creating meaningful paid performance opportunities for local musicians. Paying artists and advocating for artists is an intrinsic facet of my political ethos as both a musician and program coordinator.
What's next for Ruby Mack?
ABBIE DUQUETTE: Fabulous question! We finally merged our bubbles after 7-ish months apart, and are itching to write together. Making music makes us happy and even though we can’t perform live, we want to release more tunes into the streaming world. The goal will be to stay connected to our listeners by releasing singles and hit the road again when the time is right and it’s safe for everyone to do so.
QUARANTINE PROFILE: Riley Clemmons
We’ve launch a profile series to highlight how artists are spending their time during quarantine. Several times a week we’ll highlight a new artist across the globe and see how they’re keeping busy during COVID-19 lockdowns.
Nashville’s Riley Clemmons just released her latest empowering single “Healing”. During this pandemic it’s certainly something we all need. Check out the latest pop single laced single below and read about what Riley has been up to during quarantine.
Riley Clemmons Online: Spotify | Instagram | Twitter | Facebook
How have you been staying busy during quarantine?
Writing, writing, and writing. I’ve been taking a lot of zoom sessions and spending a lot of time at the piano. I’ve also done a good bit of cooking... and I’ve spent time with my family in Nashville.
Anything new you’ve learned?
Cooking (so many new recipes), along with a handful of DIY projects. I learned how to hang drywall and lay sub flooring... I never thought I’d be doing that! Ha!
What quarantine trend have you fallen prey to?
Tie-Dye.
What’s something new you’ve cooked/baked?
The yummiest vegan peanut butter truffles.
What’s your go to song to make you feel less alone? / What’s a song that is your go to comfort jam?
Coldplay’s “Us Against The World”
The Doobie Brother’s “What A Fool Believes”
Things keeping Riley sane right now: My new Aussie Doodle puppy “Bo,” exercise, and my family.
If you could only watch one film or TV show for the rest of time what would it be?
The Bachelor
What’s the best advice you’ve received during this time?
Take it one day at a time & look for the joy in the little things.
What do you hope we take away from this?
We’re all in this together... knowing you’re not alone is important right now.
Anything new we should know about that you’re working on?
My new single comes out October 23, and I’m so excited to share the heart behind it.